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Hi, I'm just wondering what the difference between this game and Space Merchants is other than this game seems to be an older version of Space Merchants. Thanks!
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It's the other way around.
I'm sure I'll be corrected on a lot of points in this story but the big picture will be about right.
A long long time ago SM was created and developed by this guy Speef. After Some great years of playing the game was closed down due to lack of time and server availability.
We were all very sad because this was - after all - the best online game as far as we knew but luckily Spock and Azool took it upon themselves to make a clone of the original SM, just coded in php. SMR evolved a little away from SM but is pretty much still the same. Nijarin have been added and a few stats on other items have changed, combat code is update but essentially the same game.
A couple of years later Speef decided it could be fun to get SM up and running again and he did. He's changed a lot in the game so SM is further from original SM than SMR now. Well, it was last I played it anyway.
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wasnt it marta that brough sm back from the dead after seeing smr up and running?
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I thought it was Manton, the owner of shareplay that brought it back...
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it was martha that helped bring back SM. She ran it for awhile but then disappeared. Martha is married to manton i guess cause she said her husband owned the SM rights.
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ultradealer wrote:
Hi, I'm just wondering what the difference between this game and Space Merchants is
Here's a few differents
SM can't keep their web board up a running, in fact I think its been over a year since their web board was up.
SM has so many bugs and no one to fix them.
SM has coded cheats for players that paid to pay.
SM email system doesn't work.
Now SMR does have its share of problems.
SMR has poor email replys, it may take them awhile but they do get back with you.
SMR does have some bugs, but they also have someone fixing them.
SMR does have unbalanced items in the game, but they do ask the players what they think. At less sometimes lol
No you can not compare SMR and SM anymore, SM died many years ago and has ever come back.
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See? I knew I'd be corrected. I wasn't aware that Manton and Speef were seperate people. Just shows how much I knew about the game I played back then...
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Marta ( Jonathan Manton's wife ) decided to bring back SM. The last I heard from speef, he was a big shot coder/dev for the people that make the sims games.
Heres an email I got from marta before she started sm back up...
"I think the reason we are even talking is because we just checked and
found
out all these clones of SM out there and I think although some are
reasonably good, most don't even measure up to the original - mostly
due to
the lack of support, help files, or just plain game depth. But we
don't
want to just bring it up and let it die again.
We will keep you in mind and let you know if and when we are ready to
take
you up on the offer, or we decide to do something else. Jonathan was
talking about a new ASP compiler that could offer two advantages: one,
compiled code would run faster; two, we could host the executables
somewhere
else without worrying about the source code. We will let you know
where we
stand on this once we figure it out.
And please do not let a lot of these leak. I don't want to generate
expectations than not follow up.
Thanks again for the offer. It is great to see that there are
followers of
Space Merchant still out there. Some even so dedicated as trying to
rewrite
it... :)
Cheers
Marta""
Now they have both gone MIA again and the game is left to die, and probably will once thier bill is due for the bandwidth.
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they dont need alot of bandwith with the one person that still plays.
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Wow, thanks for the info! Yea, I noticed SM's Board and Chat was dead and I figured the game was too untill I signed up. Comparing the two, the other game's help files are better, but the other's game is indeed buggier. Anyways, thanks for the history lesson I was curious. Its nice to have both running as I can swap to the other when I run out of turns! LOL ;)
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Yelp I didn't mind the bugs ether that is until they came up with this SMAid server. What you do is sign up and pay them, then you can login on the SMAid server with one account and also login the normal server with another account. This way you can be online twice at the same time. Its a pay to have Muilts, its the poorest thing that any game owner can do, is to allow players to cheat and to top it off by having the players pay them so they can cheat.
Thats the main reason the game is dieing, most of the members that I have talked to have moved here or ME or to some other online game.
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well i think the biggest bug was being able to combine two wb;s into one ship and potentially having 30,000 drones on your ship. (ive seen combat reports of 2,500 drones launching from a ship and doing damage) lol
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SM had a severl cheats and work arounds along with some other problems already mentioned. Things you will not see in SMR.
I won't go into detail on some of this stuff. Here some things that are a bit different or not in SMR.
Getting max cash and exp without having full relations by using the back button.
Using 2 seperate screens. Fire with one and jump to safety with the other.
Adding more holds/hpts/forces/shields/armor to any ship.
A way of adding forces to another persons stack when supposedly your not supposed to be able in SM.
SMR:
You can always add forces to someone elses stack if you carry some. If your ship doesn't have forces you can still refresh stacks.
Jump drive isn't nearly as accurate in SMR. (Thank goodness)
FU has jump.
Another race Nijarin that has a drone scrambler.
No way or having unlimited turns.
***If you and five of your alliance mates are in sector with one enemy and only your trigger all of your alliance mates and you will fire at the enemy ship.***
SMR doens't have a combat system to keep track of your shots.
All I can think of besides SMR is way better than SM.
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